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Saturday, August 15, 2020

The Portfolio Management Dream: How to Stop it from Becoming a Nightmare!

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VoiceAmerica  0:04  
One problem facing people at many levels of business is how to make time for a work life and a personal life. Do you find that one seems to keep getting in the way of the other? This is the work life balance with Rick Morris. Even if you're not involved in the business world, you'll have a lot to gain by tuning into today's show. Now, here's your host, Rick Morris.

Rick A. Morris  0:26  
And welcome to another edition of the work life balance on this Friday afternoon. So excited to have you guys along. And, you know, I've been very, very blessed with this radio show been blessed by you as an audience. And because of that, we're now booked out to the end of the year, which is really, really cool. It's the first time in the five years that I've done the show that we've been booked out that far in advance and that's a testament to you guys and a testament to the quality of people that are wanting to come on and talk to us about the work life balance. But having said all that it's been a little while since just I've been with you. So I thought I would take the opportunity today and just talk through some of the things that's happening here in our lives and then go through one of my, my newest content deliveries that we're talking about, which is called a portfolio management dream, and how to stop that from becoming a nightmare. So just, you know, on the personal front, there's there's a ton of activity that's been going on, you know, COVID has impacted us all. And being a serial entrepreneur and somebody who works from home. My consulting business, really just kind of went away, and so did the speaking business. And so I was faced, you know, in February in March of looking at my pipeline projections and just seeing them go down to nothing, almost. And so it's always time to pivot in I always say, these are the times that make the entrepreneur and these are the times that we really need to focus on what's important, but it's also not the time to take a break, I think The people that are working the hardest right now to reinvent and reinvigorate are the ones that are going to come out of COVID just fine. So to that end, we've started actually three different companies. Right now one super excited about we're calling milestone melodies. We're actually making custom songs. So we've got an entire group of Nashville Songwriters, musicians in really looking to create a unique, I hate to even say gift but a unique moment or so it could be, you know, wedding, anniversary, birthday, anything like that. And we're creating custom music fully produced. So there's a couple of other groups out there that do that, but they don't have the production level or certainly the talent that's available to us in Nashville. So super excited about that. There'll be probably a whole show, I'll bring the CO owners, which is Jennifer McGill, who's former Mickey Mouse Club, and Jeff bohannan is her Ben who does a lot of the production as well and we'll have them on and talk about their why and that business that's going to be really cool. We started a new organization as well called social RX which is spinning up which is more of a prescription for social media and how to do social media total Social Media Marketing Agency. And of course, you know, the pm tribe has been going on but the latest announcement is radio MMC, which you can go to radio MMC calm, but it is now a radio station that's internet based, that plays solely music of those artists and people that are connected to the 90s version of the Mickey Mouse Club. So that just launched this week. It actually launched August 12. So we're super excited about that. You can go to radio MMC comm and check that out. So let's get into today's topic. So in my consulting career and working with a lot of organizations, I've worked with almost 150 or so organizations now implementing what we call project portfolio management software. In the sole reason that most organizations buy this level of software in they can spend anywhere from, you know, 20,000 a year up to 200 $300,000 a year. So, I know several clients that have millions of dollars

invested in a platform like this, but they all buy it so that they can generally make better decisions when it comes to portfolio management. And so for those of my audience that may not fully understand what portfolio management really is, it is managing the entire project inventory for an organization in managing that to strategy as well as cost. And so the first question I always like to ask when we're doing any kind of portfolio management work is, are you picking projects based on what you can spend, or what your resources can realistically achieve? So let's explain that most organizations have some sort of capital budget planning process. Guess what they do? Is that the beat, you know, somewhere in September, October, they start a list and they essentially just say, hey, what are other projects that we need to complete next year? And this huge list? And they asked about how much is that going to cost? And then, of course, that list gets sent up somewhere, and, you know, goes through some magic formula, and essentially, they pick the project. And we've done a whole series on, you know, making sure that projects aligned to strategy and all those other things. So we won't get into that at this point. But my question is, is during that process? How do we ensure that when we pick all these projects, that we have a reasonable staff to be able to complete all those projects? And I would say between 90 and 95% of companies out there, have some sort of an idea. They'll say, you know, how many resources do you think you'll use? How many hours do you think this will be? Some kind of rough estimate? But it really doesn't timescale those estimates and show how the resources are being utilized whether or not they're gonna be overloaded or have enough time to actually complete the project work. So that's a huge question. And so as organizations start to become aware of this need, or really want to start to understand, and especially I think now in terms of COVID, you know, with reduced staffed and work at home and all those things, that it's forcing all these companies to challenge all their assumptions. And I wonder what that process is like if you don't have something that's automated, or something that can assist you in understanding that. And it's far too complex to keep this kind of information in your head or even via a spreadsheet. Because the moment you finish the spreadsheet, it's out of date. So essentially, an organization then has this dream, that they're going to buy some portfolio management software, and off they go. So what I want to do is talk through kind of three different Dreams. And then the nightmares that I see get created through those dreams. And then I'll finish this episode with some practical tips and tricks from a real world perspective. So that's what we're doing today. So the first dream is again, they buy a piece of software, it automatically somehow ranks projects through data, and then automatically communicate that information through the enterprise. So everybody knows the ranking of the projects and whether or not we have enough people to do them. And off we go. Now it's true. Most of the software on the market can do that. But here's how these things become nightmares very, very quickly. First and foremost, the first mistake most people do when they're looking at implementing a system like this any kind of automation system really, is they overcomplicate the software. When you start to see the potential of what software can automate, you start picking more and more and more processes to bring in and then essentially becomes this huge behemoth that takes forever to test for everything. Training is so disruptive to the enterprise. It's just too big. And so, by overcomplicate I can tell you I can't tell you how many times that when we we sold the software, we started working with the organization, we had something very simple like we want to do portfolio management. By the end, what you're arguing about is these 30 reports that nobody's going to read. And it's about colors and fonts and things, things like to me that I'm sure they matter to some people, but at the end of the day, those aren't decision making things. And those aren't things that really are driving those types of decisions. So becomes way over complicated. We're trying to do way too much and bite off more than we can chew. I think that second thing is that while this software does rank things, it has to have the data underneath to rank them. So for instance, if I want to know whether or not I have the resources available to do this project, and I have to have some sort of thought of what type of resources I need for how long and And how much of them that I need. So for instance, any 50% of a project manager for six months, and then that has to be compared with all the existing projects, and those have to have at least some sort of resource estimation.

Beyond that, a lot of people like to look at return on investment, net present value and, and total costs and things like that. But if we're not inputting that data consistently, in the system, then when it ranks the projects, it's ranking based on incomplete data. I think the third major thing that I see when people buy the software is that computers and software aren't going to replace human conversation. So for instance, one of the big ones is like, Okay, if I input my resources there, I want to be notified every time somebody updates a resource in the system. And I really see you know, do you do you really want to be notified because at some point, the These notifications is just going to clog your email box, and nobody's really going to want to look through them, and then it's going to lose its effectiveness and value anyway. So why would you want to be notified? And ultimately, the conversation comes down? Well, I don't want, you know, project manager or somebody going in there and messing up my resource forecast. So I get that. But even if they do, right, the system isn't going to prevent that or being notifying you isn't going to prevent that there's still got to be some sort of human conversation. There's still has to be talking that goes on and you know, jacking for the best resources for a project and no system, no matter how well automated or how well crafted is going to replace human conversation. And also the whole notification thing. Well, I see value in that being notified immediately. Whenever I'm talking to somebody in a meeting and they say something like that. I say, okay, hang on real quick. You just got notified. What are you going to do with it? Now that you've been notified, what's the next step? You're in a meeting You don't have the access to the data. So now it's just another email in your box that you got to get back to. So why couldn't we just create something like a weekly digest that says, you know, here's all the things you said you cared about, you know that, that if they were updated or changed in the system you wanted to know. But we give that to you in a consolidated format that says like, here's all the resource changes, here's all the project date changes, here's all the issue updates, you know, those types of things. But kind of a weekly digest instead of notifying you every time something like that happens. And most of my clients will take that option. But the point being is you lose the effectiveness of the software. If you overcomplicated, you don't have complete data. And you think that this system is going to replace the human conversations that are necessary to move business along. So that's how dream number one becomes nightmare. Number one. So we're going to go through a couple more of these. I've got two more dreams and nightmares to talk about and then we'll get into some practical tips but we're going to take a break right here. Are you listening to Rick Moore's on the work life balance?

VoiceAmerica  12:05  
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Rick A. Morris  14:25  
And we're back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon. We're talking about the portfolio management dream and how to stop that from becoming a nightmare. So this really comes from years and years of experience doing portfolio management working with organizations. The first one that we covered was, you know, buying software that we think is going to solve all the problems and while software does accelerate a lot of the decisions and makes a lot of the decisions easier. Certainly we have the ability to mess up how we implement the software and thereby make the nightmare happen. So our second dream that I want to talk about is where people will convene a PMO. And ultimately a portfolio management committee. The dream is that we're going to get the executives in the room, we're going to give them some criteria, they're going to look at all of our projects, and rank them with only one number one.

Not like one, a, one, B, one C, one D, but truly have a number one project. You know, a lot of times when when I'm starting the consulting with an organization, I'll ask them, who do you think is making the strategic decisions of the company? And of course, you know, they say, well, we do, right. We're the Executive Council, we do, and I'll say, Okay, do you have a prioritized list of projects that's, that's actually accessible, and everybody understands where they fit? And if the answer's no, then I said, well, you're really not making the strategic decisions. And they asked me how that can be. And I said, because what you're doing is essentially by not having a prioritized list of projects. You're deferring the decision. And that decision will continue to get deferred until it has to be made, which is generally at the lowest level. So for instance, it's it's not you making the strategic decision. It's that database administrator who just got asked to do three different things. Whatever they choose to do first is now the number one priority, at least to them. And of course, if everybody's operating that way, then you've got 500 priorities being worked on, and no consolidated effort towards that major project. And so how you combat that is then how do you decide what's the number one project and most people will do that through a council. So that's the dream is that we're going to convene this council. They're going to make decisions. We're going to have a prioritized list of projects and how we go. Now the first qualifier I want to give before I get into the nightmares, those one of the biggest things that I look at from a maturity perspective of not only Portfolio Management Council, but the project management office, the PMO, I was asked how many projects did Did you kill in flight or cancel outright as part of this committee? And if the answer is that they haven't, then they're not a very mature committee. Because the committee is just now becoming a rubber stamp or roadmap through in order to, you know, greenlight the project. But if they're really not stopping projects, or looking at projects that are performing poorly in them from that point, then they're not really making these portfolio management type decisions. That's really the goal. The goal shouldn't be which project should we approve? It really should be which projects aren't worth our time are we not going to do so how these then councils become a nightmare is first, how do you actually come up with a ranking for a project. And so what they'll do is they'll design a formula to rank projects, right the but then the argument then becomes about the formula. So instead of deciding you This project should be higher than this project we're arguing about, you know what, that ROI should be five times the revenue coming in or, you know, the NPV should be two times as important as the overall cost, you know, things of that sort. And the reason that that that formula becomes an argument is because based on the ranking of using the formula, the projects that they felt were most important, weren't showing up. So the answer must be let's tweak the formula so that we can get the expected result versus taking a really hard look at the what, what the formulas doing. So that's one way it can become an absolute nightmare. The second one and this one, this one I see more often than anything is that the council itself breaks down. So the decisions are really hard to make, but then that's why it's part of an Executive Council. The executives are there to make really hard decisions, and a very hard decision is we're going to do this Project and not do that project. And so I was contracted for for a government agency. And they had eight divisions that were using a centralized it. And everybody was upset that it wasn't doing the projects fast enough and wasn't producing enough so on and so forth, because everybody had a number one, and it was just bogged down. And my my challenge to them was, Why does it have to make the decision because at the end of the day, it for the most part, for the most part, I know I'm being generous here. So please don't be offended. But for the most part, it doesn't care what project we're doing. What we care about is that we have enough time to do that project with quality and be able to to put out the best results possible. But whether we do project a or project B really doesn't matter because we're going to end up doing them both. It's just give us the time to complete project day before we move on to project beat. So I worked with the the eight divisions and I can to counsel with them. And one of the first things I had them do was I asked them to come up with a list of criteria they feel they would need to have answered, in order for them to make a decision as to which project was going to be number one versus number two. And so we worked for weeks on that all kinds of data points, they were saying, and all this other stuff. When we were done with this exercise, the first thing I asked them to do was let's go ahead and rank our existing projects against this criteria. So that, you know, we could just see how it works, right kind of a test case. And they couldn't answer. They didn't have enough information to answer all the things that they say we're required in order to get a project approved to their Council. And I remember saying, doesn't that scare you? It doesn't scare you as the slightest bit that you're saying this is the minimum information you need in order to be able to rank a project. You can't produce that information for projects that are running right now. How does like how does Does that make you guys feel? And so what ended up happening is that it was too hard to get the data that they wanted. So we suggested to pare down the form and they disagree. They're like, no, we're just gonna disband the council. So it was a perfect example for me. And I've seen many organizations do that, that the decisions are that difficult. And in light of making the difficult decision or showing some leadership and taking that on, the response was simply we're going to push the decision back down to it and then we're going to yell at them if they're not making the decision we want them to make and that's essentially what I see in a ton of organizations.

The third one is nightmares is kind of the same under the same thing, but you can never make a decision due to insufficient data. So really nightmare. Scenario number two in this dream is is where they just the decisions too hard to make they disband but The third one is insufficient data. What this one really is, is what I call the decision delay tactic. So this is when they say, okay, we do want this set of information, go get it, you provide that information. Of course, a lot of people are doing this in spreadsheets, and it takes a ton of time to compile the information. And then somebody else on the council will say, Well, I really need to understand this piece of data in order for us to make these decisions. So obviously, you can't make the decision in that meeting. So you send everybody off, they create the new data point, they load it all up, they bring it back into the organization and somebody who go you know, that's really good, but now that I'm seeing that I want to know this piece of information. And while they say they do want to know it, it takes a lot of maturity in in somebody who's running the process to go, that's great. We'll rearrange the projects when we have that information, but we need to rank these projects based on the information we have today. That way, you have that opportunity to go ahead and start making some of the key decisions that need to be made. And you're not pushing it off. Just because of a data point. When you start to feel that kind of happening, that's when you want to challenge the organization or the council itself, to start to really come to terms with this decision has to be made. And it has to be made for the betterment of our people. And we talked about that for just a second. You know, decision making is what I feel the executives are paid the amount that they're paid for that that's that is their job is to make decisions. And but if you look at it from a human nature perspective, human nature says we don't really like or want to make tough decisions and a tough decision means it's not a compromise. Generally, somebody wins, somebody loses. And so when you're trying to maintain relationships, and you're trying to You know, make everybody happy and lead an organization successfully, those decisions are really hard to make. And I am not undermining that by any mean. But at the same time, no decision means the decision becomes deferred to a lower level. And so that now falls to your middle management, middle management doesn't make it that it falls down to your people and your people end up making strategic decisions, just for the mere fact that nobody else would. And so I just want you to think through that. And think about just something simple. Like if you're, you're asking for a team to collaborate on, you know, some copy that was being written an email was going to go out or a newsletter or something of that sort of something as simple as that. You ever send that email out and says, Hey, you know, provide me feedback. And you just don't get any information. Then of course, once it's published, everybody has their feedback ready for you? Well, some of these decisions That that are being deferred could cost millions upon millions upon millions of dollars. I remember

working with a bank, and they had something that they call this security scan. And it was supposed to just scan to see if any ports were open and they would close them before you know this, this thing would go into production. And there was there was a couple of projects that went out where a port was open, and it left them vulnerable to some sort of attack or hacking or something of that sort. And the CIO just came down with fury just beat everybody up around them. And so, next thing you know, as a project manager, when you go to do a security scan, they say, well, the security scan teams really overloaded. We said why they said well, we require three security scans for every project. I was like, what does that mean? And they said well, we got to scan it when the it is done building the server, we have to scan it after the vendors installed. software and we have to scan it after user acceptance testing, so that we can confirm if any ports were open. And if the ports were open, who, who opened them. And so then it became 10 days to schedule a security scan 10 days to perform it and 10 days to get the results. So you're looking at 90 business days or four and a half months, just so that we could say whether or not ports were open and who was to blame. And that was the kind of key thing see the executive needed to know who and was blowing everybody up, not the fact that the ports were open, but who did it. And so the question became, who made the decision to do three security scans? Well, nobody did. So the security scan team did, because they didn't want to get yelled at because they didn't know who opened the port. And so the question becomes, well, what was more important than the fact that we caught a port and we closed it before it went live? Or is it more important to know Who opened the port so we can yell at him and blame him. And when when I finally challenged the executive with that information, the answer was clear that no, we just want to make sure the ports are closed. But my that was a perfect example of how every single project in that bank, for as long as those process were in play, we're getting delayed by up to two and a half to three months. For no logical business reason, other than we wanted to know who to blame. That's a perfect example of when an executive decides to blow something up or yell at somebody or not make the the decision, how it gets hand checked down, and other people will then make the decision in absence. So that's our dream number two convenient counsel and make decisions and how those become nightmares. We're going to come back with nightmare number three right after this break and listening to Rick Morris and the work life balance.

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Rick A. Morris  30:17  
And we're back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon talking about the portfolio management dream, how to stop them from becoming a nightmare. So we've covered two dreams already. Let's get into the third one and then we're going to get into tips and tricks that I have several clients that pay big money to hear so that's that's what's coming. So hang on with us and we'll get into some tips and tricks on some practices that are surprisingly successful. So dream number three is to institute a gating process. So, gating process is a series of gates where you want to have some sort of check where a project goes from initiation into planning, planning and execution, execute In closing, so on so forth, the goal is to validate that the team itself is ready that all the due diligence has been done. And we really understand what we're getting ourselves involved with. It's also, though should be a key point in which we look at the project and decide whether or not to continue the project. So it's not just a rubber stamp. So a lot of organizations, again, state that they want that they state that they want some sort of gating process, they want some control. They want to make sure that everybody's thought through everything that they're supposed to do. But the reality of the situation is it becomes a process for the sake of process. And before I get into that, let me explain that like, for instance, for instance, one of the biggest process I think, is misused in project management is that of lessons learned. Not saying that lessons learned is invaluable. It's just that people haven't really thought through the process. So then it just becomes something that we do for the sake to say that we did add a checkbox for the PMO that says yes, we completed the lessons learned what I mean is most of the time lessons learned is handled with the project team. It's tracked in some sort of spreadsheet and then it goes out to like a SharePoint site. And then the intent is that all the project managers are supposed to read all of the lessons learned so that we can plan for that and avoid making the same mistake twice now in theory, phenomenal. But we do have a system of how do we take those lessons learned and actionable so that people can really learn? haven't thought through how to do that, then we're just doing a bunch of wasted effort. So again, it's it's not that lessons learned is invaluable. It's just the process in which we do it. If you want a great system of how you can actually turn lessons learned into a real risk assessment I suggest my book project management that works I have an entire chapter devoted to how you take the lessons learned turn that into a questionnaire that can that is in central English for Your project managers to be able to answer and then it tells you what to plan into the project based on how they answered that questionnaire. And it's all based on lessons learned. But coming back then to gating, right, a lot of people end up having gates, just for a process I had of Fortune 50 client I worked with. And when we calculated the cost of their gating process, it was $18 million. It cost them to run their gating process per year $18 million.

And so

that became a great test case for the nightmares that we talked about. So nightmare number one is that gates become really complex and they use too much time. In this case, it would take 88 hours for a project manager to gather all of the data. And of course, then there's all these rules that come with it, right? So you got to fill out this massive PowerPoint, you get to go query all these different systems and you get all this information and You're supposed to have that done a week ahead of the meeting, so that the committee can review it. Well, of course, the committee is going to be reviewing like seven or eight projects, they did not look at all of those spreadsheets, they didn't read all that document beforehand, which is what they're supposed to do for the coming to the meeting. So when they get in the meeting, you end up just, you know, rattling off a bunch of information, and then you get a rubber stamp, and off you go. So we've got to make sure that when you're looking at a gating process, that it's not complex, it's super easy to kind of get through but you have the right amount of control within it. The second big nightmare that comes with the gating process comes around, again, decisions not being made. So you present it and then they defer decision in the gate because they want more information or they don't understand. And so therefore, the project essentially goes on hold until you can go through that next gate. Even more so. You know, when you when you have the council that's looking at the gating, a lot of times they'll say well You know, we're only going to meet every other Tuesday, something of that sort, which means if I'm ready to go through a gate, I've got to wait until a certain amount of time, so I can go present and get a rubber stamp and move forward. So that's another huge nightmare that we see when we're looking at the gating process. But the biggest one and my challenge to this fortune 50 client, my challenge to most of my clients is, once we understand what the total cost of the gating process is, then what is the value of doing that? Can we attribute the value? Did we cancel a project? Did we save a project that was gonna lose a ton of money? And, and, you know, revamp them? And when we start looking at processes like this, you know, some of these are very necessary. Some of these are regulatory, and that's fine. But the question becomes, is the value does the value outweigh the cost or is the cost tremendously outweighing the value? So in the case of that fortune 50 client, my question is, can we address Repeat like 35 to $40 million of gains from running this $18 million process. Because if not, then we need to kill the process and reinvent it. Right. And, and that's so I don't understand why it's so scary for organizations, but they're like, Oh, no, we got to do gating. Okay, but the gating hasn't produced any kind of results for your organization the way that you've chosen to do it. So why do it? Well, because, you know, we have to or because, you know, an audit finding or because, you know, our consultant said, so something of that sort, but making sure that we're getting twice the value out. If not, then everybody needs to be re diverted to revenue generating activities instead of these activities that are just clogging up the wheel and not producing results. So that that's how that becomes a nightmare. Number three, so let's get into some tips then for dreams instead of nightmares. So those are the things that can go wrong. Based on the assumptions that most organizations make,

so how do we how do we make these things, actual dreams? How do we make this stuff come true? So my first tip is that all of these things work gating works, project management software and how that work, you know, that works. Having a portfolio decision committee, it works, but they all have to start simple and then become built upon. So for instance, in the project management world, focus on each one of your roles kind of doing one thing, well, I call this the three rings of focus. So the three rings of focus is okay, I want portfolio, our project managers to write a good schedule. I want resource managers to give me utilization statistics, at the minimum Give me the percentage of resources used against the project over a length of time. And the team members just validate those assumptions. They can do that through time tracking or just validating the percentages that They're their resource manager put in. If each one of those roles just focuses on doing those things, well, then you have all of the pillars that you need to make great portfolio management decisions. We'll know how well the projects are trending, what percentage of resources are available to take on the next project. And we'll understand that the resources know where they're supposed to be and what they're supposed to be doing. And so if we do that, then it works. Once you have that down, then you can start to add onto some automation and some workflows and notifications and all those other things that a system can provide. But what I end up seeing happening more than anything, is when you overcomplicate it, then you stent, you start to doubt the tool and not the implementation of the tool or the configuration of the tool. And then it just becomes this large time tracking kind of database Whenever you try to use the data as a point of decision, people don't trust the data so they don't do it. That's, that's horrible. So, they are all of these things work, but they need to be kept simple and they need to be built upon. Under that same kind of tip though, I want you to have the concept of enter once use many. So I I see a lot of organizations who like one time tracking in their portfolio management tool resource management tool, but then they also have SAP or some other HR kind of tracking system in which they have to answer time so now it becomes duplicate entry of time. That's the biggest thing I always caution my my companies and clients to look at is to say, we need a time tracking system of record. And then whatever other system needs that information, we can feed it. So generally that means the portfolio management software is the best place to track time because it's generally at a lower level. When you're looking at like SAP and HR systems. They just kind of want time rolled up to the front project level, not necessarily at the task level. And then of course, you've got you know, just number of hours worked PTO time, that kind of stuff, you can roll that up and send that to other systems. In the same with like financials. So if you're running SAP financials, then let's not create a whole separate tracking spreadsheet in our portfolio management system. Let's find a way a way to feed the relevant information from the system of record into this, you know, into the system where you want to use the data but not have any kind of duplicate entry. All of the all of the systems now have open API's, they're super easy to start to integrate with. And there's ways that you can design that process so that you're entering once and using many. That's a huge tip. Think through the process. From your resource perspective, think through the process of the people that you're asking to do. You know, the so yes, you want the information to make better decisions. But if we make it cumbersome to enter it in or they're entering it in, twice, it's To lower the quality, then you're going to be into the nightmare of the data quality doesn't add up. So therefore we don't trust it. And now we're just doing again process for the sake of process. Very, very important that a well designed thought process of implementation of what's the system of record? What's the information do we need? What are we going to ask our people to do? And how are we going to utilize that data? That's how you prevent that from becoming a nightmare. So I've got four more tips that I'm going to share with you when we come back, but we're going to take our final break right here you're listening to Rick Morris and the work life balance.

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Rick A. Morris  44:00  
And we're back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon, the final segment as we go through my tips now for how to keep your portfolio dream from becoming a nightmare. So we already talked about, you know, keeping things simple, the three rings of focus and enter once use many. Here's a very, very popular one we talked about earlier in the nightmare about how when you create a ranking algorithm to rank your projects, that a lot of the arguments become about the algorithm and not the projects themselves. So what I do is I find the five or six pieces of information that they're saying is important. So you know, ROI, NPV, total resource utilization, length of project, those types of things. And I rank all the projects by single statistic, each one so if there's five things I five separate lists and then I look for essentially the waterline or you know what we think we can do 30 projects, so which projects appear in the top 30 and all five of those categories. And generally there's about 10 to 12. In doing so, then we can say those 10 to 12 are in, regardless of who you know, if you think ROI is more important, or if you think total utilization is more important doesn't matter. That's it. And so now we're just we've made our decisions on the top 12 right out of the gate. And now we just start talking about the bottom 18. At that point, it moves things along a lot faster. And even if we come to a stalemate on the bottom 18 we still have ranked the top 12 and off we go. So that's a huge point in time saver for a lot of portfolio committees. probably my biggest tip that's utilized and in most of my most of my clients companies. The next one is what I call the 10% rule. This one, this one is is huge, especially when you start talking about lowering the amount of gates and things like that that you need. So essentially, the 10% rule works this way. So when you pitch a project and you have an initial budget, you automatically get 10% of that budget approved to go plan the project to really go plan out how much this thing is going to cost. And then if you're within 10%, plus or minus of your original estimate, you're automatically approved to go into execution. So the beauty of that is it's reducing the amount of gates that are just rubber stamp, and now gates just become about the outliers. But also it gives you the ability to move things along very, very quickly. So for an example, if it's a million dollar project, you get $100,000. To go plant it, you find out it's going to be a you know, 1,000,001 point 5 million, and then that means you you've got the green light to go into execution. So that's a very, very popular one as well. I've seen several organizations streamline their processes to where the only the gates that you're talking About are falling outside of that 10%. So therefore, there's real decisions starting to get made as to whether or not that project still valuable enough or whether it's still worth enough to go after.

And my next tip can go hand in hand with the 10% rule. And this is pmis term. It comes from the Pim Bock. And it's one that I remember kind of having a reaction when I first saw it, but once I saw one of these inaction, it's called a board. And that sounds horrible. But it essentially, is that the committee is convened to shoot down the project. And if you can, if you can then get the project through that committee, then it's a really good project to do. But otherwise, if it's a flimsy project, it's a pet project is one that's not really going to generate ROI, that kind of stuff. Those get cancelled and shut down in this committee. So the intent isn't to come to the committee to approve the intent is for the committee to come in and decline And make the sale of that project be so good, that it's irresistible. And we have to do this project. It's just it's a little bit of a flip of connotation, but it really is, is a powerful tool to say, you know, we understand we have limited resources, we understand we have limited budget, we're going to make sure that we're not going to waste any of those on projects that don't deserve, really to be considered by our staff. And my final tip, in this series is to talk about, again, value. If a process doesn't provide double the value, then it's time to redesign the process. And that really goes for any of our processes. It's amazing how much money that that I call low hanging fruit is available when I go into a consulting client. And all I have to do is looking at the processes that they're doing and question why do we have that process And I'll tell you that 90% of the time I'm talking 90% of the time, people will tell me Well, that's just the way it's always been done here. And that's that I hate that statement. Because that's not true. It's not the way it's always been done there. It was just the way that you were trained and you've never questioned or look to improve the process sense. And so when you're when you're looking at a process, I'll give you a perfect example something a question I asked a client that they'd never been asked before is that they, they deal with a lot of regulatory a lot of regulatory projects and regulatory generally means you have to do it, or there at least has some consequences for not doing it could be loss of reputation could be a financial fine in most times. It's a financial fine. But there was a new regulation came out everybody scrambling the project was gonna cost about $200,000 do and my question was, what's the fine? I go? What do you mean? I said, Well, we're doing this to avoid a fine, what's the fine, the fine was $10,000 For the first year, and I was like, Look, this is obviously a project we need to tackle, but it's going to be a nightmare to try to tackle it now. So why are we going to spend $200,000 to avoid 10? Where we'll just take the $10,000 lump. And now we don't have to do it as an emergency project, and it's gonna cost you no way less to do. And that's what we did. But nobody had ever really asked that question to the client before like, Alright, so that caused me and my portfolios when when I have a checkbox that says this is critical, or it's regulatory, like I want to see, like, Where's the regulation, I show me the document, show me the phrase, and show me the fine so that we understand that this is good business for us to do. So, if a process doesn't give you double that value, then it's time to absolutely redesign the process. So that's how we make portfolio management dreams. actually become dreams and avoid nightmares. If If you have any questions about any of those, you can reach me at r Morris at r squared consulting COMM The software that I recommend that you use right now, if you're looking at any kind of portfolio management type software is a company called PD where it is the first one that was built with resource planning in mind and makes the resource planning essentially the power of a project portfolio management tool with the ease of a spreadsheet, it's really really cool software, really inexpensive, and does a phenomenal job.

Coming up next week, we're going to start a series of entrepreneurs and real entrepreneurs. And we're going to have john tablets on who is the founder of books, which is Bo u q s and it is one of the fastest growing flower retailers out there, the largest company and one of the biggest successes ever to come out of shark tank and just a phenomenal entrepreneurial stories. So we're going to be visiting with john. Next week, and we've got tons of those coming up. We've got Wes, who actually was our reschedule. We missed an appointment before but he's a marketing guru got Travis Bell coming up. And just on and on Adam Mendler. Steve gave it tours. And then even if you missed last week, a fascinating conversation that we had with Doug vermeeren who's is considered the the modern day, Napoleon Hill. He's He's interviewed over 300 of the most successful people in the world, and is gleaned insights. And he talked to us about his movie, how thoughts become things so that was last week's episode. If you missed it, you definitely want to go back and catch that one. Otherwise, gang, we thank you so much for always being a part of the show, always the feedback that I get on social media and via email. I certainly appreciate it. So keep that coming. And until next Friday, we hope that you live here. Your own work life balance will talk to you that

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VoiceAmerica  0:04  
One problem facing people at many levels of business is how to make time for a work life and a personal life. Do you find that one seems to keep getting in the way of the other? This is the work life balance with Rick Morris. Even if you're not involved in the business world, you'll have a lot to gain by tuning into today's show. Now, here's your host, Rick Morris.

Rick A. Morris  0:28  
And Welcome to another Friday edition of the work life balance. So happy to have you guys along and super excited for today's show. You know, since last Friday, not a lot happened. I am still on somewhat of a performance high though I get to see rents which you know if you guys know me and know the play, no day but today for me, the book that I wrote about that play, it got to come through Birmingham and I could take my family to it as first time my son sat down and saw the play and look over and you know, 13 year old cool kids in tears. It was it was pretty good.

The sea but other than that, I'm not going to waste a whole lot of time on the recap of the week because I want to get straight to our guest. I'm so excited that she's here with us. And just to tell you a little bit about her she's been performing in theater, television and film since the age of six. In 1989, she was cast as a mouseketeer on the Disney Channel's all new Mickey Mouse Club forming alongside Brittany and Christina and Justin Ryan. Carrie, you know them all. We've talked about him on the show, but she was one of only three cast members to appear in the pilot and all seven seasons. Since then, she's gotten onto Broadway she played the role of older Helen in Hollywood arms, and just completed the Chicago engagement of First Wives Club. regionally She starred in Freaky Friday Young Frankenstein Legally Blonde let's misbehave having it all. She's gotten a couple of La ovation nominations during that on the TV and web. She's starting Jessica Jones lies the on demand lethal weapon. How I Met Your Mother, I didn't

Do it Bedtime Stories earn his saves Christmas, which, you know, we all know Ernest saves everything. But her original web series was fantastic. It was called on the patio. You can see that on the patio TV. com. She's a graduate of the University of Missouri Columbia, the William Esper studio in New York and the imagined life studio in Los Angeles, and is currently touring the world and you can bring her to your organization with an acclaimed act called blood, sweat and mouseketeer. So let's bring her on. Miss Lindsey. Alley, how are you, Lindsey? Hi, I'm great. I'm great. Thank you. So I'm officially going to turn into your hype man. That's that's, I need to get out there and do that for you.

Lindsey Alley  2:41  
It's Lindsey, you just travel with me and do that as I walk into rooms. It will do it yeah, we'll do my my Michael buffer. impersonation, but I mean, let's talk about this though. Right. You started acting at a really young age right? Did you always know that? That

Where you're gonna head? Um, you know, this is, this is what happens kids when you're when your parents let you watch too many movie musicals. I think I wore out my tapes of Annie and the sound of music and, and my parents actually took us my brother and I took us to my brother and me, excuse me, to the theater from the moment we could sit. So I think that just planted a seed very early.

And I knew I wanted to be a part of that. I loved the way I felt in the theater. I love the way I felt when I was watching those musicals on TV and I knew I wanted to be in that world. And it you know, it wasn't necessarily show business it was I wanted to entertain people in that way. And I I wanted to make people feel the way I felt when I when I went to the theater, so Yeah, so I guess you could say I've always known I've known since probably I was five or six, truly.

Rick A. Morris  4:09  
So when he did the makeup, I become very protective of what I call the first five seasons of the Mickey Mouse Club. So when you bring up Mickey Mouse Club and the all new Mickey Mouse Club, everybody does go to the ones they know they go to Justin and Christina, and Brittany and all that, oh, you know them. And I was like, Yeah, but if these super talented kids on season one weren't awesome. There wouldn't have been a season six. Right. And so I

Lindsey Alley  4:36  
good point, Rick. I've actually never

Rick A. Morris  4:38  
thought of that. Have you not? I say it all the time. I'm like, if you guys had to kill it for five seasons, or we look, we may have still heard of Justin and Christina and Brittany, but we wouldn't have heard from them from the Mickey Mouse Club. You wouldn't have been the club

Unknown Speaker  4:54  
the way for those kids.

Rick A. Morris  4:57  
Well, good. Take it known it because it's the truth. You guys guys killed it. Yeah, you guys.

Unknown Speaker  5:03  
Thank you. So what

Rick A. Morris  5:04  
was it? What was your experience like? And I mean, for those of you that are trying to say I think I know the name or whatever she was our cutesy there's always the cute one that you just want to squeeze the cheeks was our Lindsey, but I would like for you.

Lindsey Alley  5:20  
I was the youngest for a long time. Until I wasn't until that second wave of kids came in. You know, it's so funny it was it was such a long time ago. There's sadly chunks of it that I don't even remember I have I have these very specific images now and very specific memories, but I don't have like, what did it feel like to be on set? I don't really remember. Isn't that sad? And it's not because I grew up and did a lot of drugs or you know, drink it all the way it was nothing like that. But I think you know, My big takeaway from the experience was this sense of family and sense of, you know, these, these are the kids that I grew up with. It was my high school. And it all felt so normal to me. So when people are like, what was it like? Well, it was normal it was, you know, I had this job on on TV and, and got to do these sketches and sing, you know, do these musical numbers with these awesome kids who were in my high school. And it was it was truly It was truly wonderful. But it felt strangely just normal to me. That that this was just my everyday that it's weird to say that that a TV show in your childhood could feel like a like a regular everyday activity, but that's what it was for me.

Rick A. Morris  6:54  
What I found fascinating it was pre internet, right? So there was no following you on Twitter seeing you on Instagram or you're watching your Facebook or any that kind of stuff. And so it was the handwritten letters, you know, that would come right. But on top of that, there really wasn't a sense of the impact that you guys were making. And I think that's what made our event in May so special, which was the 30 year reunion. And so first time we had cast members from all seven seasons on stage together and yeah, but but the interaction with fans talk about that a little bit.

Lindsey Alley  7:30  
Um, well in this it was the same in the sense of, we all kind of grew up together and it was so wonderful that we didn't have Facebook and Insta and we actually really connected face to face and those fans who came to the set to see the tapings. I'm friends with like they're in my life. They are they're my friends now to its there was this real sense of family and then it was so cool at the reunion to actually meet people face to face for the first time after receiving letters over the years or connecting through Facebook years later. And then to finally see them in person and hug them it. It felt like seeing a long lost family member. I'm not I'm not being dramatic. It's true. Because we all had this. It was this common ground meeting place at 530 on the on the weekdays where we could all just, you know, let it all go be kids hang out together, whether we were on the show or you were a member of the show watching at home. It was our It was our time to just be ourselves and it was very unifying. Is that word Make sense? And this

Rick A. Morris  8:52  
does, it does I think one of the moments that sticks out the most for me other than you know your performance For a room that was built for you, but the thing that sticks out the most for me is when you were sharing with you that you were going through like a braces stage. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Do that when you got your braces and when you got above how the fans, you know, supported you.

Lindsey Alley  9:16  
Yeah. And you know not to I would never say anything disparaging about Disney or the producers because I have such an incredible experience on the show. But they, they didn't want me to have braces. And I think they were afraid of I'm not sure what the exact words were to my parents when when my dad told them that I was going to get them. And they I think they said something like someone said something like, well, we don't have imperfect kids or something. I don't know what it was. We don't we don't want this. We don't want her to have braces. I don't know what the exact words were. But my dad was like look she could shoot down a tree with the He needs these braces. Anyway, I got them. And it was like this instantaneous connection with these other kids who had braces, everybody was going through it, everybody was dealing with something. And they saw themselves, you know, it's it was representation, you know, on a very small level, it was just a mouthful of braces, but it it had impact. And it it meant so much to the to the viewers at home going through that, but it meant so much to me too, because even though I was on the job, I'm still a kid going through puberty and and awkward stages. And it was so nice to get these letters from these fans all over just saying I'm so happy to have them too. And it just it it just made me feel so great. So

yeah, again, a unifying experience.

Rick A. Morris  10:58  
So what we didn't know and I just put two into together is you do a joke about your your husband's family in in their teeth and had Disney one you would have just fit into the family essentially.

Lindsey Alley  11:12  
Exactly. I see all the time that you know my husband's from the UK and I say I had to marry him he's the only English guy I've ever met with nice tea. So look I had to do it I had an area but yeah if I if we just let it go You know I still even say to this day, you know? Look, we can always move back to England and let our teeth go. We can just

Rick A. Morris  11:34  
what's the joke about your first time running the pictures but the

Lindsey Alley  11:39  
other Yeah, they rule I always say they his family ruined our wedding photos.

Rather has teeth like a drunken graveyard.

Oh, Lord.

Rick A. Morris  11:54  
Yep. So So had you had Disney one then you and his brother would have more in common than you think.

Lindsey Alley  12:01  
Exactly, exactly.

What's the other the other thing that we say is? Oh, he could eat an apple through a tennis racket.

I'm sorry, you guys, that's my computer here. Let me It's okay. It's okay. It's saying that I have messages which you know are just spam anyway. It just makes me laugh so hard and of course Lee just shakes his head now and he's like, this is so tired, Linds. Come on, like get some new material. It still makes me laugh.

Rick A. Morris  12:34  
makes me laugh every time and what was so cool about the reunion is you know, you tell stories about the Mickey Mouse Club and you tell stories about family tell stories about your mom and everybody was present there you know, it was a lot of other than Justin right, which will save that joke for the corporate gigs.

Unknown Speaker  12:53  
Will cable that joke,

Rick A. Morris  12:55  
but but I thought that was a really cool moment. So We're going to continue talking with Lindsey, we're gonna find out what she's done post MMC and what the future holds for her as well. So we're gonna take a quick break right here you're listening to the work life balance

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Rick A. Morris  15:10  
And welcome back to the work life balance on this Friday afternoon. We're visiting with the one and only Lindsey Alley   Lindsey. So we were just talking about your experiences on the Mickey Mouse Club. And obviously that was a big portion of your early life but you've now transition from a kid actor to an adult actor. What was that like?

Unknown Speaker  15:29  
Hard?

Lindsey Alley  15:31  
I'm not gonna lie. It's it's a major thing. And I think it's I think it's really tough when you I think any kid actor would tell you this or anybody who's had success really early, which I did. In a way it kind of sets you up. To think that this is kind of how it's always going to be, oh, this is just my life. I just go in and work on TV shows and this is This is who I am and what I do and

Unknown Speaker  16:03  
it kind of just shapes your worldview very early. And then when

Lindsey Alley  16:11  
when the chips don't continue to fall that way, you start to wonder if there's something wrong with you and then you wind up in a lot of therapy and and then you try to give it up and do something else and try other jobs but realize that you don't love it as much as you love this one thing so you stay the course. And it's not that I haven't had success as an adult actor. It's just that my success with was profound as as a kid and it wasn't just the Mickey Mouse Club. I mean, I started doing regional theater when I was six. I mean, I did Annie at the Burt Reynolds dinner theater when I was eight. I mean, working professionally like paying taxes since the age of six. So You know, making that transition, I still feel like I'm making the transition. You know what I mean? I still feel like I'm reinventing myself all the time or discovering something new. But it It hasn't been like a series of slam dunks in my, in my adult hood as it as it was in my childhood. And, you know, sometimes I say, it was college that kind of slowed me down. I mean, it was very important to me and my family that I get a degree but I think we all know that you don't really need a college degree to be an actor, and you need to just keep doing it. And so a part of me wonders, should I have zigged instead of zagged? Meaning should I have, you know, maintained the momentum that I had as a kid and just moved to LA or moved to New York, right after high school, and instead, I chose to kind of slow down and and get this degree and it was an amazing experience. And I'm so happy that I have it. But I do still wonder if things would have been different if I just kept going. You know,

Rick A. Morris  18:13  
what's interesting, we call you an adult actor, but you're only 22 years old, let's be honest. Right? You still got a whole life ahead of you there. But

Lindsey Alley  18:21  
years ahead of me,

Rick A. Morris  18:22  
you know, I've gotten a chance to visit with a lot of you the Mickey Mouse Club, and what's interesting to me is, you know, if you look at the normal acting career, you, you you're a success in high school and maybe some local theater and then you're going to go to LA and when you finally kind of make it, you know that that's a journey, but when you guys have Disney money behind you at such a young age, you know, when I talk with Damon and chase and DD and you know, they had Disney money behind their recording, right, they were working with Dr. Dre and Teddy Riley and it just ridiculous producers is such a young age, and then that gets taken away. I feel like It's your to mountaintops further down than the normal actor coming back up. Does that make sense?

Lindsey Alley  19:06  
Oh, yeah, yeah, totally. And then there's when the other kids around you are blowing up. There is this sense of like, feeling like a hamster on a wheel. Like, you're trying to keep up on some level and, and recognizing that you can't. And, you know, and I'm thinking, what what am I trying to keep up with? I don't want to be a pop star. I don't I don't want a career in that world. But then there's this sense that you're like, oh, are people thinking what happened to her or Where did she go wrong? Or, you know, it's just the mind games that go on. So when people say to me, you know, my kid really wants to be in show business. What advice would you give? I take a big pause before before I give any answers or any advice, because it hasn't been easy. It's it's a, it's a really tough business. It's a really tough career, whether you're, you know, just starting out at age, you know, 20 or you got to start really early and you're, you know, trying to gear shift from child actor to adult actor. I think it's all really tough and it all comes in seasons. It's feast or famine. So I am very cautious about advising parents to get their kids into show business. And the only advice I can give is you have to stay in it. If you can't think about doing anything else. If you if you wake up thinking about it, and you go to bed thinking about it, and you dream about it, and everything else feels like you're faking it. Then you have to do it. But, but it is hard. It's really it's a life of sacrifice and therapy

Unknown Speaker  21:02  
and booze.

Rick A. Morris  21:05  
But I think you know, there's a lot of people that that that have this fascination with fame right in fact, but what were you sometimes don't even become the person in front of them it's it's the character that you played You're no different than somebody walking down the street they showed your character name I think the difference you know for you guys in the Mickey Mouse clubs It was your name there was no character right it was just you and so you know it's it I can promise you this I feel like I got to come into big brother role here for a second. The the choices that you made back then and where you are right now is exactly where you're supposed to be. There's no regret for past decisions. And, you know, it's not like you didn't act because you you were hooked on cocaine and you know, in a crack house somewhere it was to college. And it I think every decision and regret that we have in our lives becomes the the building block and test for us to pass later.

Unknown Speaker  22:08  
Right. Right.

Rick A. Morris  22:10  
So no regret on that decision. No regret.

Lindsey Alley  22:12  
No. And you know, and I say that as almost as a joke. Because

I mean, the truth is, is I probably did slow things down a little bit. I'm so sorry you guys. Okay? Um, you know, it probably did slow things down, but I would I would I go back and change like all of the friends that I made all the shows that I got to do that collegiate experience. Those boys that I got to make out with, I mean, like,

Rick A. Morris  22:44  
I mean, I wouldn't do tell our stories like, all right. That's how rumors get started.

Lindsey Alley  22:49  
Exactly right. I just, I mean, I, I wouldn't change any of it. It just I think everybody does this to some degree. Like if I had zero Instead of zagged you know what would my How would life be different? But I saw some and this is so embarrassing it makes me sound real dumb but I think I saw this quote on Instagram the other day and I don't I don't know who's quoted is but it it said stop pretending like it could have been any other way and I don't know why it makes me emotional to even think that but it does. It's like that's right like this is we are exactly where we're supposed to be on the map. And finding peace with that is challenging sometimes, but it's it's the truth. We're exactly where we're supposed to be. So you're right. No regrets, no regrets, big brother.

Rick A. Morris  23:44  
And I'm a big fan of energy, right in belief in energy and the manifestation of so I operate as if I've already done a lot of things right.

Unknown Speaker  23:57  
So smart,

Rick A. Morris  23:58  
so cool, which Why, you know, you're going to have 37 corporate gigs next year, right?

Lindsey Alley  24:04  
Please keep thinking all the thoughts

Rick A. Morris  24:07  
are going to manifest that. We're going to get into the one woman show in the next segment. But just as a teaser, you you write quite a bit as well. Is that correct?

Lindsey Alley  24:19  
Yeah, Yeah, I do. It's a form of therapy.

Rick A. Morris  24:23  
But in writing, one of the things that that was so cool of the MMC 30 was your opening song was tailored to that audience. Is that something you do for most of your shows?

Lindsey Alley  24:34  
It is Yeah, and I actually have help with that. I have two guys, two really brilliant writers who I work with regularly. Eric kornfield and David Goldsmith. And, and we collaborate on these tunes and I take these. I take these concepts to them and think okay, what makes a great parody. It's a song that everybody knows to start with and how can we make it specific to them? How can we speak directly to them with our opening number? Because I really feel like that is what you know gets people listening straight away if it's if the show is for them about them and not just Hey, I'm going to show up with this stock opening number of the Stock Show and I take a lot of I take a lot of time and pride in the fact that we try to make things specifically for the audience we're entertaining

Rick A. Morris  25:33  
was it's no different than why rock and roll shows they come out and go Hey, Chicago, we love

Lindsey Alley  25:39  
this exactly right. That's exactly right. You want to you want to speak to these people directly. So yeah, it's it's important to get all the inside joke jokes in and, and and make them feel like you know, we know you are we've got your number straight away. I think it you know,

It's people listening from the start show.

Rick A. Morris  26:03  
And I'm very cognizant not to release jokes or release material. But when you did the opening number at MMC 30. And you hit the line grown up Mouseketeers. I mean the place just went

Unknown Speaker  26:14  
Oh, yeah.

Rick A. Morris  26:16  
Yeah. But that was a perfect example of how you how you personalize the show for for the audience, which means we're going to go into break here in a second. But if you're thinking man, I really need something funny, something entertaining, something touching. Go through all the emotions is the way to open up my conference or my corporate event or we just want to laugh before we reveal the 10 k numbers to our investors, any of that kind of stuff. Think Lindsey and we'll make sure that she personalizes you know if you got bad news to release about your earnings, let Lindsey do it in her show. Right. We'll do it.

Lindsey Alley  26:55  
I love bringing down the hammer.

Rick A. Morris  27:01  
So we're gonna take a break here we'll be right back with a fantastic

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Rick A. Morris  29:09  
And we're back to this Friday edition of the work life balance. I'm going to be in Boston this weekend. So if you guys want to come out and see us, Tony and chaser are doing a show out there at the city winery. So we'll be out there to support our brothers. Come visit us out there. I think it's sold out. So if we can just create a nice line out the front, that'll be fantastic for our crew. So coming back to Lindsey. So Lindsey, we're talking about your your one woman show that you've been doing for years to talk to us about that.

Lindsey Alley  29:40  
So, you know, it's I feel like it started. A million years ago, my friend Barbara Smith, who's an actress in my hometown of Lakeland, Florida, was doing a little segment at the library one day, called people in their stories and she wanted to interview me for this thing. We had such a great time, just riffing for a teeny tiny little audience at our local library, that it turned into a bigger show. And then I took that concept to college and, and kind of built out this little show in college and then that transition to look Mondo ears a show that I ran off Broadway for six weeks back in 2006. And then I took this version on gay cruises. And that's where the show kind of took on a whole new life because I was doing these cruises regularly in front of a very discerning audience of gay guys on the high seas, who had no problems saying what worked and what didn't work and, and I was able to build up this act and it wasn't just, it wasn't just a cabaret act. It wasn't just song to song to song and then song was written by Cole Porter. And this song was written by beep bop boop, it was, you know, it had a real arc, a beginning a middle and an end. And I realized I had this Mickey Mouse Club hook that I could work with that certainly set me apart from other cabaret artists. And, and it started taking on this sort of life of stand up as well. So it's, it's part stand up part musical comedy, part, touching cabaret. It's this hybrid show that kind of works for any audience I found, and especially when you tailor the show specific to these audiences. And and it's it's great fun, I've it's the thing that I've always done. And I think it's one of the oldest ways to connect. It's so simple. It's just one art And a musician on stage it's, there are no pyrotechnics. There's, I don't even have a drummer or a bassist. It's just a piano. And it's very pared down. But it's a very effective entertainment tool.

Rick A. Morris  32:15  
It's me it's like old Vegas.

Lindsey Alley  32:18  
Is all Vegas. It is it's the great American club act and bring it back.

Rick A. Morris  32:22  
There it is. There it isn't. You're so dang funny in this. I mean, you just, but I mean, we went through the whole realm of emotions from from tears to laughter to just you know being into you can captivate an audience with your voice as well. It's it's just, but but I love that you don't take yourself so seriously on stage. You know, I think that's a really important thing.

Lindsey Alley  32:45  
Yeah, I mean, I, I just can't I mean, I just start with I look like a muppet. So I mean, if you look like a muppet, and really take yourself too seriously, you got to keep it real. So yeah. I'm, it's just I like seeing I like seeing people be real onstage you know, I, I strive for perfection in my shows, but like when I go to see other people perform, my favorite moments are when they go up on a lyric or they have to stop to collect themselves or they're at a moment where they can't remember what's coming next in their show and we see these glimpse we see a glimpse of a real person. And that's far more interesting to me than this super polished, pristine, you know, show that has been rehearsed within an inch of its life. You know, I love seeing the humanity and things like that.

Rick A. Morris  33:44  
You brought me back to Carol Burnett. That's why that was always so funny with her Barbie and Tim always trying to crack each other up when they build a character. That was the funniest part.

Lindsey Alley  33:53  
Yeah, it was the best part. It was the very best part and it was the moment that people live for because you just saw it. Oh my god, these people are having the best time and they're just people. So yeah, your people, people being people. Anyway, yeah, it's I mean, maybe it's a way of letting myself off the hook for not being perfect when I'm up there. Because I, you know, they're little failures and every show but the older I get the more accepting I am of the imperfect show, the imperfect skate, as I call it. So

Rick A. Morris  34:34  
let's be clear to though this is no Mickey Mouse show. This is in fact, just to peel the curtain back a little bit there was we had to negotiate because we were outside at Epcot. And because it's family we had to negotiate you know certain words and how many say and you know that can so so you can go ultra clean? But

Unknown Speaker  34:55  
yes,

Rick A. Morris  34:56  
it is. It is a negotiation to see how far you can push that envelope.

Lindsey Alley  35:00  
That's right. And I and I, I stepped right up to the line. Didn't I read?

Rick A. Morris  35:05  
You? Did you did? We actually negotiated a couple of words you didn't use? You? I think he used not antonyms synonyms. But you didn't use any any word so you weren't supposed to

Lindsey Alley  35:20  
know now as my mother always says, Lindsey, please don't talk about your body part.

Rick A. Morris  35:30  
I think that was the best do that your mom was in the audience that was

Lindsey Alley  35:33  
Yes. With with oxygen standing by and in a crash cart. Like right right behind her.

Rick A. Morris  35:40  
And I I had a Disney representative right next to me. So how they were just the monitoring just in case. That's right. Mouse is always watching.

Lindsey Alley  35:51  
The mouse is always watching. No, I mean, like, Look, you know, if somebody says don't say this, and don't say that I'm always going to be very respectful because I don't want Gonna show up and and you know mess up the bed in someone's house so

Unknown Speaker  36:07  
you know I want to be asked back for God

Unknown Speaker  36:10  
exactly

Rick A. Morris  36:12  
so we got about we got about two minutes for break what's one of your what's a story of you doing something maybe you shouldn't have done while on set at MMC or while in the park at MMC

Lindsey Alley  36:26  
um well nothing on set I mean I can't say that I was I've always been a good girl like I've always been a rule follower and a people pleaser so I don't step out too much. I mean, if somebody says look, you cannot drop the F bomb I really won't like I might not have it. I might gesture something inappropriate but I'm never I'm never gonna come out and you know unset like, again, I was always kind of a good kid. But I do remember one day at can Vincent, one of the PA is to let me drive a golf cart. And I was like, I don't know what he was thinking letting me do this. I was 12. I mean, the poor guy probably lost his job. But I remember driving around the back lot of the set, and I put it in reverse. And again, he's like sitting right next to me totally letting me do this. I put it in reverse and drove right into the wardrobe trailer, and I couldn't

Unknown Speaker  37:27  
gain the whole

Lindsey Alley  37:29  
trailer. I mean, look, it was no big deal, but I did damage Disney property. No, no, it was kind of bad. Kind of bad. But I think my parents were spoken to about it. But again, somebody allowed me to do this. So I'm not even I'm not even.

Rick A. Morris  37:47  
Yeah, it's not even your fault. No, clearly clearly was that whatsoever,

Unknown Speaker  37:52  
totally assigning blame to someone else.

Rick A. Morris  37:55  
Alright, we're gonna take our last break here and then we're going to talk about one of the biggest changes that That's happened in your life but we'll talk about that when we come back from break. You're listening to

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Rick A. Morris  40:07  
And welcome back to the final segment of the work life balance this Friday afternoon with the great Miss Lindsey Alley. So Lindsey, we teased it going into break though you've had a huge change in your life once you tell us what that is,

Unknown Speaker  40:19  
um, well, the biggest change is having a baby at 40

Lindsey Alley  40:26  
which seems like a totally appropriate thing to do.

Yeah, I mean, I, I can't say I've, I, I was always one of those people who, you know, desperately want to kids and I'm just keeping it real.

Yeah, I often say I love kids. I'm a big fan of their work. I

Unknown Speaker  40:51  
just wasn't sure I wanted to own one. And, and then

Lindsey Alley  40:57  
you know, when my husband and I decided to Kind of give it a go. It was very much a, you know, we'll see what happens. We're older. It may or may not happen for us either way, we're fine. We're totally happy if it's just us and that's, that's going to be our life and and I, I sort of got pregnant straight away, which was shocking to both of us. And I didn't tell anybody because I just you know, you hear all these stories and you just sort of think, well, this might not this might not be a real thing and then as the months ticked on, I thought, I guess this is real, like, I guess I'm gonna have a baby. And then it was about 37 weeks when I finally told Facebook I was like, I told you guys I guess I'm I'm get I mean, it's 37 weeks now. I guess I need to commit to this like I'm having I think it's officially too late. I you know, I definitely look pregnant. Anyway, I there was so much fear around it. I thought what kind of mom? Am I going to be? Is this kid gonna like me? How is this going to change our world and it has changed everything. And I I say with love that he's ruined my life in the best way possible. Because I just you you, you don't think about how dramatic the changes until your until you're in it and and how I cannot fathom my life without this kid in it now which is so weird to me because it's not something I thought I wanted and now I can't imagine not seeing his face every single day. He's just the greatest kid in the world. He's so nice.

Rick A. Morris  42:48  
And they're amazing. What's funny is is there's a secret and I'm gonna go ahead and reveal it. But there's a secret with those of us that have kids to couples that don't we're always like yeah, now go do it. Yeah, sure. know it's the greatest thing. And we don't tell you everything that's involved on purpose because we want you in our miserable club.

Lindsey Alley  43:08  
That's right. That's right. Exactly. And you know, it is so true and nobody really tells you what it's like. And the truth is, is they can't, because you think it's going to be different for you. Even when people say, Oh my god, you're never going to sleep again.

Rick A. Morris  43:26  
You haven't slept in two years. You saw

Lindsey Alley  43:29  
two full years. I used to be really cute. And now I look like a white walker.

Knocking I used to say my boobs were so cute before and now they look like they belong in a menu at I have.

Unknown Speaker  43:46  
This kid has sucked the life out of my face and my body. But he's great.

Rick A. Morris  43:56  
The visual of the menu out of control. I'm just gonna

Lindsey Alley  44:02  
go accurate if I could show you under

magic, itty bitty tities is it's so bizarre, but having said that the body is amazing is it it is so weird what I just did. I mean, I just

and then I said that person was

Unknown Speaker  44:27  
I mean, it's just so weird.

Unknown Speaker  44:32  
It's insane

Rick A. Morris  44:35  
but great, great material comes from the kids. Hey, you want to have a writing comedy? Good gracious.

Lindsey Alley  44:41  
Well, that's the thing. It's like I don't even I can't even take credit for any creative ideas. It's like my kid is just handing me these gems on a platter now. I mean, he's just so funny. yesterday. I my husband's been out of town for work and he I put some oatmeal on the table for him and I was like listen, and he's too. I was like, Listen, eat your oatmeal. I've gotta go do my makeup. I'll be right. And I hear him in here eating his oatmeal and I'm like, listen to that kid eat doing what I asked him to do. And I come in here after doing my makeup and I realized that I had failed to put a spoon out for him. I am such an awesome mom. And instead of asking me for a spoon or an and I knew he couldn't get to the utensil drawer in our island in the kitchen is a lower drawer where I keep the serving spoons. That kid went in the drawer and got himself a gravy ladle and ate his own. He was eating oatmeal with a gravy ladle.

Unknown Speaker  45:47  
That is resourceful. I was impressed.

Rick A. Morris  45:51  
I remember my daughter was like, I want to say she's six months old. I actually have this on video. But she she used to Grab her baby food bottle and like make this weird like where she would kind of shake her head and it didn't dawn on me until I saw her mom feeding her one day and her mom struggled to open up the the baby food jars so you know how you strain and you kind of shake your head right she had picked up on that and thought that's what you do. She grabbed a bottle then she should shake her head like she was straining opening was one of the funniest things I've ever seen

Unknown Speaker  46:26  
at their show and you cannot say or do anything now I really have to watch it. Right. You know, if he's going to pick up something it's definitely going to be something

Unknown Speaker  46:39  
that I say so.

Unknown Speaker  46:42  
My mom is like Lindsey You better watch your mouth. Kid

Rick A. Morris  46:50  
so how do people book you and and find you, Lindsey.

Lindsey Alley  46:53  
So I mean I'm I'm for sale. I'm on me and

I am very available and reachable. You just have to go to your local social media site of your choice. drop me a line on Facebook actually don't because if we're not friends on Facebook doesn't get filed away into some secret folder and then something like that. Yeah. Okay, so just go to my website, Lindsey le calm. And you can, you can find me there. Insta Twitter, I have an agent, I have all the things or call Rick Morris. He's got myself.

Rick A. Morris  47:32  
Thanks for that. So how's that getting called at all?

Unknown Speaker  47:39  
I'll give you

Rick A. Morris  47:41  
There it is. There it is. So quickly, what's some of the best advice you've ever received?

Lindsey Alley  47:46  
Um, I've received lots of good advice over the years and I

haven't, haven't used a lot.

But, you know, in i and this is this is a sad statement to make. I don't remember who gave me this piece of advice I I don't recall. But it was, it was a few years back when you would walk into I would walk into auditions and think, what do they want? What are they looking for in quotes? They What did they want? And I was trying to be something else for a while. And this was this was many years ago this probably 10 years ago. And I was trying to fit into some mold of what I thought people wanted in show business or what I thought they wanted my show to look like. And the best advice somebody gave me was, don't try to be anything like don't try to fit into anything you are your own superpower. Like the you are. It the fact that no one else can be you is your biggest asset. And I've carried that with me and whenever I thought, you know, I'm not as good or I'm not as this or, you know, my body doesn't look like hers or my face doesn't look like hers. And I just think Yeah, but their face doesn't look like mine. And, and I, I've let myself be me. And I just think that is the one thing that we can all we should all remember is like we're all so unique and, and being ourselves is our is our superpower.

Rick A. Morris  49:31  
That's awesome. Well, Lindsey, we love you so much. Thank you for joining us, and we got to have you back.

Lindsey Alley  49:36  
Thank you. It's so so wonderful to be here. And thank you so much for having me. This was such fun.

Rick A. Morris  49:41  
So next week, we're going to have the fantastic bb stegman. Look, we we really, I don't know who we bribed or who we robbed to get Barb on the show. But Barb basically started a company by going to war torn countries and sourcing oils and minerals from like Africa. Stand and Iraq and Yemen and just these places so that they she could provide a living to those farmers and then makes perfumes that she sells and so forth, Macy's all these places and killing it. Really, really fantastic story. She's going to be with us next Friday. We hope that you're with us next Friday right here on the work life balance you've been listening.

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